Dr. Joe

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Hey, this is Dr. Joe Tanti. Uh, in today’s episode, I’m talking with Dr. Sarah Kjos over and Camrose at Martinson health. Uh, in today’s episode, we’re talking about her practice, uh, the way she practices and the people. She helps a lot with pregnant women in sports athletes. So if you’re interested in any of that and you are need of chiropractor and the Camrose area you, are you going to want to check this out.

At the start of our interview I, for some reason, keep saying Madison health. Although I know she was at Martinson health, I just couldn’t get the correct words that, uh, so I hope that’s not too confusing for you. Anyways. Hope you enjoy the show and I’ll talk to you soon.

Dr. Joe

All right. Hi there. Welcome to building a healthier Edmonton podcast. I’m Dr. Joe Tanti. I’m here with my special guest, Dr. Sarah Kjos and she’s a chiropractor over in Camrose at Madison health. She specializes, and we’re going to talk about all this in just a moment here. But her special interest is on helping pregnant women children, and also athletes getting back to getting back to their game.

So welcome to the show. Yeah, thanks, Joe. Great. So let’s just start what, what brought you into becoming a chiropractor?

Dr. Kjos

Yeah, well, originally it was sports. I kind of spread myself a little bit too thin in high school and I had terrible shin splints. And I didn’t really have time off during the year from athletics.

And so it got kind of past the abilities of our athletic trainer in school at the time. He referred me out to a chiropractor. Sure enough. Results were amazing. And I just absolutely loved going is one of those things where I like looked forward to it every time I’d go. But such a profound effect.

I was able to compete to my best ability again, whereas previously I couldn’t you know, years later then I started looking into a career path. I had a couple of close family, friends who were also chiropractors. I spoke with them a little bit more in detail and the way they spoke about their jobs was unlike anyone I’ve ever heard.

Talk about their job before. Right. They were so in love with being a chiropractor. So I looked more into it and found there so many different avenues and just really sparked my interest and I’ve been loving it. So.

Dr. Joe

That’s great. And how long have you been practicing for

Dr. Kjos

a graduate in 2016. So still my first five years.

Dr. Joe

Okay. That’s the same as me. Yes. And you went to Portland, you said, right?

Dr. Kjos.

Correct. You do? Yes. Oh, before I forget, it’s Martinson health emergence in health. Okay. Sorry about that. I said Madison. Yeah. Okay. And so tell me a little bit about, that’s not a usual first experience with a chiropractor.

Dr. Joe

A lot of people say chiropractor, or, you know, I have a back or a neck issue, but you had shin splints of all things.

Dr. Kjos

Yeah. So random. Yeah, so that’s kinda what like opened the door as realizing they get help with sports injuries and it was like a sports specific. Chiropractic clinic. But while I was there, she kind of, you know, discussed a little bit more about what they do and look a little bit about the spine.

So I think so so long ago, but if I remember I should adjust my thoracics and yeah. Do a couple modalities on my shins gave me exercises and they was so much fun.

Dr. Joe

Right. That’s great. And how did your, so you played professional volleyball, right? Tell us a little bit about your career with that.

Dr. Kjos

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, it wasn’t that exciting. It sounds a lot better than it actually was. So yeah, I played throughout high school, played four years in university. But then I just kind of, not so much retired, but retired from playing. Hi competitively, or, you know, that high level just played recreationally for a couple of years and like through chiropractic school, just recreationally.

But after school I got married to Paul chose who was also a grad from UWS, another chiropractor. And he actually did previously play professionally in Europe. Professionally, which is pretty nice to kind of make me realize like, oh, this is like a real, a real thing. So we got married and we’re like, you know what?

Let’s take this opportunity to travel. And so we found a place where we could both practice and play volleyball at the same time. Now, our search was really narrowed because in order to work as a chiropractor in another country, you have to speak the language. We both only speak English. So there’s really only a couple of countries we could choose from.

And England has a fairly okay league. I’ll say it’s a great stepping stone type league, whereas. Graduates from university would go play in England while they’re searching for a contract in mainland Europe or vice versa. If they finished playing like their career professionally in mainland Europe, which is just that next level, then they might like finish off playing in England for a couple of years and then, you know, retire for real.

So moved into, moved to England. We are Northeast and new castle. About an hour and a half train ride. South of Edinburgh. Scotland is amazing. Anyways, moved over there. We will just kind of walked on or like we spoke with the coach give him our background. He’s like, yeah, come to a practice. Let’s see how it goes.

And yeah, it went really well for both of us. Anyways, yeah. Started practicing right away, got on the teams and started traveling around England and Scotland playing. I’m practicing at the same time, which is so much fun, but anyways, played over there for three years. Had my daughter and the second season, which was fine.

Second season. And then my final season, I played with the baby as in like, I would have to wheel her in the pram and like pet her on the side of the court. He’d play like theater in between sessions and whatever travel with her. It was so much fun. Cool. What a fun, fun way to end. Anyways season got cut short because of COVID of course, but we did make it to the national final.

The final was the one match that got canceled.

Dr. Joe

Oh. So you’re this close to winning it all. That’s unfortunate, but yeah. You know, diseases, trump sporting events, for sure. So that’s what prompted you to come back to you said your husband was from here and so that’s what prompted you. I’m assuming to come back to camp or toAlberta.

Dr. Kjos

Yeah, we discussed it before. Like where do we want to go next? And we do want more kids as well. And I should mention, I like 20, 27 weeks pregnant at the moment. Oh, congratulations. Thank you. So finishing off, having kids in Canada just seems like such a nice place to raise kids and have kids as well take advantage of that healthcare.

Right. So it’s just since I’m from the states. And so it’s like huge difference, right? But yeah, discussed it beforehand and thought, yeah, Alberto is the way to go, especially being around family.

Dr. Joe

Okay. So fast forwarding just a few months now or not really just kind of the natural progression there. It sounds like I’m assuming, because of you had the children, you, you know, you’ve been through the pregnancy process you’re pregnant, number two.

That’s probably drawn a lot of your interest to the. Pregnancy world and kind of opened your eyes to what’s out there

Dr. Kjos

100%. Even when I was in school, like chiropractic care for pregnancy and babies, like it was cool, but I honestly had zero interest in it whatsoever. I was like, I was just all about wanting to work with athletes, just cause that was much more my background and that’s what I was familiar with.

Anyways. Yeah, graduated actually had a baby and then realized chiropractic care during pregnancy was amazing. Obviously working in a chiropractic clinic with other chiropractors, I was getting, you know, weekly treatments and every two weeks I’ll get a massage. Like I was really good about taking care of the housing.

It was. And then being pregnant, caring for pregnant women, you like get that special connection. And then just doing more, you know, continuing education about it and just realizing how much of a profound effect you can make. So it’s not like I have so much fun getting treated while pregnant, but then.

Dr. Joe

Being in the other side of it as well. I feel like we can just build such a good connection. And so now, I mean, same thing pregnant, again, treating pregnant women, getting that connection and being able to really help each other is it’s just so much fun.

Dr. Kjos

Right? You have, you’re not only trying to be empathetic.

You are, cause you’re living. You’re going through that yourself as well. What are some, what are some Common misconceptions people may have, or that are a little nervous about trying chiropractic while they’re pregnant. And sometimes they may think it could be dangerous or, you know, harm the baby or harm them.

Right. Yeah, that, one’s more, that’s a great question. I think it’s more, so people who may not be as familiar with chiropractic care or may just not realize there are so many different techniques that you can use similar to treating kids and babies, right? Like we’re not going for cavitations here or just, you know, a surgeon for little things and techniques are so much different anyways.

I’ll kind of go on to that. Like specific techniques, like during pregnancy that people may not be as familiar with or chiropractors obviously are, but like general public, maybe not so much. Yeah. So I am Webster certified and that’s like, usually what I go for when treating pregnant women or honestly, lower back and pelvic pain in general, I use it a lot and it’s had given me really good success.

I’ve really enjoyed using what for technique. But yeah, just how there are techniques specific out there. Balancing a line in the pelvis and basically giving baby the most runner room, which makes moms so much more comfortable. Yeah, so it’s not about twists and lower backs during pregnancy, you know, it’s about balancing and making sure things are moving the way they should.

And it helps, especially like for months, your body is growing so rapidly. Changing so rapidly. So I wanted to keep up with those changes and how things are pulling differently. I don’t know if that really answers your question.

Dr. Joe

So, so what do you mean by again? I know, but people that listening or watching, they have no idea what these name techniques are.

What, what kind of. Can you kind of walk through the process of like, what is Webster technique? How is that different than, you know, possibly twisting so on and like jumping on them and trying to get a bunch of popping noises and you know, that cause that can oftentimes be very uncomfortable, especially through the ribs.

And I felt I find with any, a pregnant woman. Any discomfort in through the abdomen or in, through the ribs, it’s just, it’s just not going to be good. And it’s so easy, so easy to aggravate things, because like you mentioned there, their weight is changing. They’re growing forwards, they’re going sideways.

Their hormone levels are all over the place. So the joints are slack. The, the muscles are, you know, changing as well. So there’s a lot of, a lot of stuff is happening in a certain period of time.

Dr. Kjos

Exactly. Yeah. Good question. So this is I’m wording it for like patients, correct? So like, I’ll describe what’s your technique, just a fancy name developed by a guy named Webster was really focused on the pelvis.

So the way the weather, I always like to check. So I was like to start with leg length. Now I like to check ladling first. Cause sometimes it can show if there’s a tilt. I like to drink now, one side does feel a little bit stuck. No, I will go ahead and check most of the sacrum. I focus a little bit more so on the sacrum which is the triangular bone at the very, very bottom of your spine.

So if you feel like, you know, your tailbones at it’s the connection to the tailbone there. So I like to kind of feel around for that spot and then I’ll be checking. The sacrum and things around it. So in order to adjust the sacrum again, that Trang they’re born at the bottom there. I like to use the drop table and that’s where a piece of the table pops up.

When I push it drops back down, it’s a really nice, gentle, yet effective technique to help to move the pelvis. After I do that. And once I feel things are balancing out a little bit more, I check the groups which are the bummer. So loosening off those muscles. Now I will use a bit of pressure, but it’s always to the mom’s comfort level.

I’ll never go beyond what’s comfortable loosen off glute muscles there. And then I like to check a ligament that connects us, sit bone to the tailbone, loosening off those. So basically checking all around the pelvis again, then personally, I’ll go through adjust the rest of the spine. Some people do some people don’t depending on what people want, like to check full time, people will turn it over onto fat.

And then I’ll be checking the pubic bone next because thinking the pelvis, right. I just checked everything on the back of the pelvis. Now I want to check the front of the pelvis as well. Everything’s connected there, loosen off the pelvic bone a little bit. Excuse me, pubic bone a little bit. Now those don’t move a ton and are also are not very comfortable.

So we’re only in that spot for maybe five to 10 seconds, again, depending on what we find and depending on mom’s comfort level. From there. I will be checking this. So as muscle and some people may have heard of this muscle, some may have not. It’s the muscle that connects it from your mid lower back and goes out towards your hips and pelvis and connects towards your pelvis or into the pelvis.

Excuse me. So then I’ll go ahead and loosen off one of those or both. Depending on what we find. And then last I’ll be checking the round ligaments. Now I did have a patient the other day who was so funny. She was exactly the same, like length as me, as far as how far along we are in pregnancy and sure enough, she’s like, I keep it in lightening crotch, keep it enlightening crunch pain, which is funny.

I’ve never heard of this before. Anyways, of course, around like pain, but if you’re any pregnant women out there, you get lightening, crotch pain. It’s usually. The round ligament it’s linking in with that connects from your uterus, right towards your pelvis. And you can get that sharp, sharp pain, like if you’re sitting for a long period of time and then you stand or happens a lot of times at night in bed, like say you’re on your back or excuse me, laying on your side, knees tucked in a fetal position and you’d go to turnover, straighten your legs, gets you like that.

So loosening up those and then I’ll usually give an exercise or a stretch that can just. Help them stay comfortable if you’re not pregnant.

Yeah. Lightening, crutches, no joke. I’ve I’ve never experienced it. Thankfully. I’m glad about that, but yeah, it can be very, very debilitating and painful, obviously.

Yeah. So the round ligament and oftentimes that pubic bone just becomes inflamed too, and it can send a, as the name implies. Bolt of lightning feels like shooting from your crotch and down your leg. Exactly. It’s terrible. Yeah. It’s not fun at all. What are some, what are some other type of presentations that you see in pregnant women that are quite common and a lot of the time I’ll have some patients or people.

Dr. Joe

I know my, my wife, we have a son he’s about 20 months. And so when she was in her, in her mom’s group and they would get along. You know, doctor’s appointments and they’re talking about different things. And a lot of the time they’ll see people and they just say, oh, you know, you’re in discomfort or pain and you just have to live with it and, you know, suck it up mom, which is, you know, not very helpful.

So what are, what are some things that you’ve, that can oftentimes be helped with that people just think that they, you know, have to suck it up for nine months and then sometimes they have these problems even lasting after.

Dr. Kjos

A common one we see is psychotic and are like that sciatic type pain. And for people who haven’t heard of that, it’s usually like a lightning type pain that goes right down your bum, sometimes all the way down the back of your leg.

Usually we see that a lot in pregnancy. So that’s something that is really common in pregnancy, but we can help with now. It’s one of those things that might continue to come back because our body’s consistently changing. So that’s why it’s so important to stay on top of it while it is growing.

Make sure you get treated slash make sure you’re stretching, taking care of yourself so that your body can accommodate, you know, your growing self. That’s something. Yeah. Something that I see. So, so much with postpartum moms, especially early postpartum moms is like upper back and shoulder pain and like lower neck pain.

And it’s always, let’s see your positioning for breastfeeding slash are you breastfeeding? Thinking positions, even just holding a baby, right. Chin tucked looking straight down all the time for hours every single day. So that’s something, again, you don’t just have to get this pain because you know, are looking down at your baby all the time.

It’s something that we can help with leaks enough and give you stretches and exercises that you can do on your own to help with this as well.

Yeah, that’s great. So, so common, right? They got the, they’re always holding the baby cause you know, they can’t take their eyes off of it or off of him or her just a bundle of joy. And sometimes I noticed whenever it was younger where you know, holding him and carrying him and he usually would favor one visit.

So, you know, get him whatever position is comfortable for them. And then they fall asleep on you and then you’re sleeping in these awkward positions.

And then you’re really, yeah, you’re not trapped, right. Shoulders tucked up like one leg at this weird angle and you’re stuck there for like an hour

dare move.

Dr. Joe

Yeah, absolutely. What are some, just some general guidelines in terms of. Exercise and. Getting active and, you know, doing things when you’re during pregnancy this is assuming a, you know, a healthy pregnancy. You haven’t been told by your medical doctor. There’s no high, you’re not high risk. You’re, you’re not clamp sick or anything like that.

Dr. Kjos

You, you know, it’s a normal, healthy pregnancy. What are some suggestions or tips you have for people just to try to feel the best that they can throughout the pregnancy and for the development of the baby.

Brilliant. That’s such a good question. Yeah, a lot of people here when you’re pregnant, stopped doing anything.

Now it’s just a lift, not supposed to exert yourself that has completely wrong. So during pregnancy is a great time to think of it as training for the big event, right? You’re going to train to be a mom now training in the sense of you want to keep yourself really fit and healthy. So if you’re used to being really athletic, if you’re used to lifting.

Continue lifting weights. You may have to modify how you’re lifting. You may not want to be doing some of these crazy things, but if your body is used to doing something, continue to do it. So back to weightlifting, if you do that, you’re not going to continue to increase your with your weight. You’re not going to want to increase how much you can lift during pregnant.

They’ll probably back off on how much you’re lifting, but you can continue to do the same lifts as long as it’s comfortable for you. Same thing with running. If you’re a runner, keep running as long as it’s comfortable, you’re not going to want to increase how long you can run or you don’t want to increase how fast you can run a certain distance.

You just want to keep doing the same activities that you’re comfortable with. And I, so song. Just keep doing what you’re comfortable with. Now, if there’s someone that who does not actually exercise or is not used to exercising before pregnancy, you are still okay to exercise. It’s just about doing gentle exercise, listening to your body very well.

If anything becomes uncomfortable, you stop. But yeah, just staying active as can help build those muscles to keep you strong throughout the process of your body changing as well. So,

Dr. Joe

Absolutely. I think there’s some recent ish guidelines, like 2018, there was a massive review. And I think it’s similar for pregnant pregnancy, as well as just general population.

You know, you want to get, at least, I think it was 180 hours of mild to moderate exercise a week. So that’s, so that’s going to be about three hours a week and that’s kind of baseline,

right. Which is more. What most people do.

Dr. Kjos

Yeah. Unfortunately but that’s one reason we have so many, you know, health, health issues and back pain, neck pain, and other health issues as well.

So it’s important to say it’s so important to be active for sure.

Oh, follow up on that. Actually, if there’s any pregnant women listening, if the pools are opening swimming during third trimester is so nice. Getting the pool takes so much pressure off the belly and back, and it’s amazing. This one being pregnant.

Yeah. The, the buoyancy probably right. Just help stay cool. All the pressure off. Yeah.

Feeling a waitlist again is incredible.

Dr. Joe

Right. Are there any devices out there? Have you seen that? It’s like, I don’t know. I just thought of this now, like a portable pool, possibly. Just so you’re constantly walking in a pool just to help support the stomach.

Dr. Kjos

You imagine that be so nice. I know. The only thing I know, I guess something that’s nice to support the stomach and I do need to look more into this actually are like belly belts or yeah, belly bands. So if that’s not something you’re familiar with, which I do need to look more into, I usually just like do athletic tape, but that is someone that can help to support the belly for pregnancy as

well.

Yeah, I found those to be, I haven’t used those specifically, but I’ve had some patients who have used them and I had the taping can oftentimes the CLA as it sounds, it can be, it can be helpful. It just feels like it takes like a huge load of pressure off, especially the front of the pelvis. Like that pubic bone.

Exactly. That just gives it a little bit of relief. Sorry, I’m just thinking here.

Yeah, this is where the post edits come in. Very handy. So feel like I’ve been

rambling a little

bit, but no, it’s great. Yeah, I’m enjoying it. This is great. Your questions are awesome. Oh, good. Thank you. What have you or I just totally lost it. No

worries. Take your time. Especially if we just like edit out this one, chunk is going to be so much easier than if we have something good. And then pause again.(If you are reading this, I was initially going to edit this out, but then I thought, nah, i’ll keep it in. This is life right? I thought it would be fun to include the ‘rough draft’ 🙂 )

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Is there anything that you want to talk about?

Hmm. We could touch on kids a little bit if you want, if you want.

I know sometimes it’s like, yeah.

Dr. Joe

Tell you what? I got this, I got two more questions, three more questions, and then we’ll probably wrap up. Okay, cool. Okay. So when you, when you have a pregnant person and a pregnant mom and they just come in, they don’t have necessarily any symptoms. They have some, you know, some classic things, maybe some, some discomfort.

And there’s more coming in for like a health check. Do you have a, usually a recommendation on terms of followup, similar to a, like an OB GYN? You know, they follow up the first trimester. They’re seeing them a couple of times. Again, assuming everything is healthy. And then the second trimester, you’re seeing them a little more often.

And then by the third trimester, you know, coming close to that due date, they’re seeing, you know, you’re going in very often cause they need, cause that’s when things are just rapidly moving and everything’s changing. Do you have any type of recommendations that you suggest to people? Something along those lines,

like a schedule?

Dr. Kjos

Yeah. Yeah. So I have my personal favorite recommended treatment scheduled during pregnancy. And this is yeah. If someone comes in no real complaints just want to stay on top of things during pregnancy, as I say, every time. Every two weeks until we hit that 34 to 36 ish week mark, depending on how they feel, then we go to weekly until maybe becomes and that’s of course, if everything we find has been healthy and great the whole time, but I always leave it up for discussion.

Like it’s always, of course their choice. That’s just always my recommendation for scheduled during pregnancy.

That’s probably a personal preference. I’m assuming you discovered that was helpful for you.

Personally. I mean, I was really lucky in the sense that I worked at another chiropractor’s. I was getting treated religiously every single week, sometimes twice, depending.

I mean, I was playing volleyball as well. So depending on what practice or like how the left-wing, you know, cause I was still lifting. So I was going a lot more frequently, but just at the pace that people are growing and changing and like the hormonal changes, just everything I personally. Like the two week schedule, but yeah, it’s more often than what some people like, and that’s totally up to them.

They can choose whatever they like really.

Dr. Joe

Right. So it’s kind of like a personal preference. Some people find it really helpful and then sometimes they might need to come in more frequently or not as frequently, depending on how they’re feeling because every, every pregnancy is, it’s a little cliche, but every pregnancy is completely different.

I’ve talked, I’m sure you’ve talked to people. They’ll, they’ll have you know, multiple pregnancies, multiple children, and they say each one was different. You know, child a was my favorite because the least problems. And then, you know, the last one or the middle child was, you know, there were problems during pregnancy that was the most difficult.

And coincidentally they’re the most difficult child as well.

Dr. Kjos

Right. Yeah. But you’re exactly right. Every pregnancy, every woman’s different. So that’s kind of the baseline. And then we modified depending on how she’s presenting. Yeah.

It makes total sense. Now, after baby has come and you know, you have a newborn, is there any suggestions you have on treating the infants or children?

Is there any like a lot of times people think, you know, they, they come in and they’re an adult and you’ll treat them and. For some reason, they may think that you’re going to do very similar things to, to a baby, which is a little ludicrous. But what would be your feedback on that?

Yeah, for, for, that’s such a good question.

So this is one of those things where even in school, I was like, what, like babies went into chiropractic care, but then yeah. As they learn more about it and then of course go through the experience myself. Of course they do. I mean, think about the actual birth experience or. Even just being in a woman’s uterus for nine months, especially during that third trimester where they’re just like stuff in a funny position for however long.

No, of course their bones are not ossified yet. And so everything is so much different now. I don’t usually say, Hey, when you have the baby, bring them in, it’s always a complete, like their choice. If they have questions about how would you treat a baby? Like, I answer that and say, if you feel comfortable, or if you notice these certain things, that would be a good time to bring in the baby.

I don’t want to push it on anyone because it is, you know, your child, right? So an assessment for our baby, I’m mostly, I’m looking at developmental reflexes and a lot of it is observation. And then I do like to check inside the mouth and the school just for, you know, positioning of proper things, looking for native tongue ties, lip ties just in relation to feeding, seeing how feeding’s going.

Yeah. Again, a lot of development and a lot of reflexes. Now I will say a lot of parents come in with like, oh, my baby has reflux. And that’s something where I say, I don’t necessarily treat the reef, but I will look. Development reflexes and, you know, physical structure and function, and sometimes helping things like that may help with things like reflux.

But I don’t say come and bring your baby with reflux. I always check these things and sometimes it can help with other things that a mom might bring a baby in, but as far as treatment goes, so that’s the assessment. And as far as treatment goes, now, pressure that you use is basically the same amount of pressure.

If you’re going to touch your eye or check the ripeness of a tomato, very, very gentle you can do it in multiple positions every once in a while. There’s a baby that just isn’t really into it. Doesn’t like me touching him or just plainly wants to be cuddled, so, okay. Mom or dad, go ahead and cuddle baby.

And I can check their spine while they’re cuddling on you. At least they’re mid back anyway, easy enough to check and mid back while they’re cuddling on mom, I’m feeling usually babies are really easy to feel feeling right through that baby fat. And if there’s a spot that’s just not moving very well or.

Yeah, mostly does not moving as well as it. Should you just hold pressure? I usually hold pressure between five to 10 seconds. Again, that very gentle pressure until I feel things released. And we can do that full spine, really super gentle the entire time. Just gentle holds really it’s all about feeling.

And before I forget a lot of people aren’t familiar with or are familiar with the activator or the clicker for any lay people out there. The clicker can be used for kids, but not babies. If anyone’s listening, we got to watch for. Yeah, for how much pressure the actual activator is putting out there.

The amount of pressure, even on the lowest setting is more than what you should be using for an infant. I need to look at the actual chart again, but better to use your hands than the activator on babies.

Okay. Yeah. And you can kind of targets, I feel specific areas and actually feel what’s happening while using your hands.

Oh, no, it’s cutting out.

Okay.

Yeah. Sorry. It’s sorry. I’m just just going to cut out here for a second. Okay. (Life again right…)

 

Dr. Joe

Sorry. Sorry about that. Hopefully that works. So I, I find using the hands is kind of, you can kind of feel more what’s happening just to get that feedback versus using an instrument. I like to kind of use the analogy sometimes as you know, baby, can’t tell you what’s happening to them.

They, they all, they know. They something they don’t like they cry. So, and sometimes that’ll come up in different ways. They’ll have reflux or they’ll have like colic, colic is kind of this garbage bag term we’ll use to describe kids are crying a lot. So it’s like, well, that’s not helpful. Yeah.

Dr. Kjos

Oh yeah.

Also before I forget too, something that I do like to tell parents, If they’re wondering like, oh, when should I bring my kid in? Or like, what are things I should look for? For breastfeeding moms, if it’s, they’re more comfortable feeding on one side as opposed to the other, or if you find they’re sitting or laying down constantly looking towards one direction or one direction, a lot more than the other direction.

Really good reasons to ring them in.

Yeah, absolutely. I think I read some research. I dunno how well I didn’t read it extremely thoroughly, but they kind of came up with a number about 30% of kids usually need a little bit of a therapy or some type of rehab. So it’s not a lot, but it’s always a good idea.

I think to at least get them examined. I mean, yeah. Go to see the pediatrician, right. Just to make sure everything is doing well. Periodically I don’t see any reason why not to bring them to the chiropractor, just to make sure everything’s doing.

Yeah, just for a little

check. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. And usually kids respond like extremely quick, too, right.

So fast. And I always like to tell the parents as well, like okay. Once they leave babies usually have a really good feed and, or a really good sleep after treatment. And almost every time they’ll come back and be like, it was amazing, however long.

And a really good bowel movement too often. So

during treatment, which is a little funny,

right.

Make sure the diapers on and we’ll get a mess that’s for sure. Great. Well, thanks for your time. Doug, is there anything that we didn’t ask or that you’d like to comment or, or anything else you’d like to say?

I think that was pretty thorough. Yeah, my pleasure. I think we hit all the, all the good

stuff there.

Dr. Joe

Yeah. Well, thanks. Thanks so much for where your time today. All right. Well, this has been Dr. Joe talked to with Dr. Sarah Kjos down at Martinson health out in Cochrane. So if you’re in the area and you need a great chiropractor go look her up. Is there anywhere that Dr. Kjos, is there anywhere that people can connect with you or see what you’re doing anywhere we can direct them to.

Dr. Kjos

Yes. Yeah. Great spot. It’s just Martinson health and athletics, Facebook or website. And it is in Camrose Alberta to about 45 minutes south of Edmonton. But their website is pretty good. They’re great at social media a lot better than me. Anyway, I’ll have my personal Facebook, Sarah tkjos, DC, just Facebook, but honestly, I’m not very good about keeping up with it at all.

The Martin’s in the health and athletics, Facebook as much. Much better. Up-to-date.

All right. Well, thank you for your time, everyone. And we’ll you can check in next time. Bye.

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