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[00:00:00] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Hey, his is Dr. Joe Tanti with the ability a healthier you podcast. Welcome to the show. Uh, in today’s episode, I am talking with Paulina, uh, she’s down in Camrose. She’s a massage therapist at Martinson health, but she’s not a typical massage therapist. She’s actually doing a couple of different techniques, different strategies to help you get better.

[00:00:23] Um, I don’t want to spoil it. Give away your secret sauce in this intro. Uh, you’ve got to have to listen, uh, but I hope you enjoy the show and talk to you soon 

[00:00:33] hi, everyone. Welcome to the show. Today I have Paulina from down in Camrose. She is a by trade. She’s a registered massage therapist, but she has a couple other things that she’s been working on as well. She’s a working [00:01:00] with Dr. Sarah that we had chatted with just a little while ago, over at Martinson health Paulina.

[00:01:06] How’s it going today? Good. How are you? I’m doing great. Thanks. So tell us how let’s go,. Go back to the beginning. How did you get involved in a healthcare? 

[00:01:17] Paulina Klevgaard: That’s a great question. There’s always that like big pressure when you’re graduating high school, like, what are you going to do? You need to figure out your life right now.

[00:01:25] And I didn’t know what I wanted to do, but I definitely knew I wanted to be in kind of the alternative health care. Side of things that really spoke to me. I loved biology. I loved learning about the body. And it was actually my career counselor who was like, Hey, have you ever thought about massage? It was kind of gaining a little bit more attraction.

[00:01:45] He had mentioned like teachers get it benefits. You know, you can get a lot of clients that way really feeds into the biology anatomy side of things. So I was like, oh, look, that sounds interesting. I’m from a small town in the middle of nowhere. So I had never been for a massage. I [00:02:00] had never given a massage aside from just like rubbing someone’s shoulders as I walked by.

[00:02:05] So I was like, that sounds like a great idea. So I enrolled in school for massage therapy at the Alberta Institute of massage with no previous experience of what it’s like to get a massage. And I loved it. right from the start.. 

[00:02:20] Dr. Joseph Tanti: That’s great. That’s an interesting journey into it, especially having no previous experience, but that happens in a bunch of different professions.

[00:02:30] I think not just with massage. And where would you say is your focus, your focus now? 

[00:02:36] Paulina Klevgaard: Well, I’ve been doing massage for just over nine years now. And typically you could say like a massage therapy lifespan is like five to seven years because especially if you’re doing it full time, it’s kind of hard on the body.

[00:02:51] And I noticed that myself, I had a lot of elbow issues. I find it sometimes really tiring depending on how many people you’re working on a day and what type of work you’re doing. [00:03:00] So I kind of started shifting my focus. I got into aerial fitness and that ended up kind of pivoting what I do a little bit more.

[00:03:08] So. I’m still doing massage to some extent, but my work with clients now is I try to say, you know, if you’re a new client, we can do massage, but we have to do mobility sessions in conjunction because I’m trying to take us from this passive mode of healing into a more active mode of healing, which will get people involved and actually.

[00:03:33] An interest in their health and actually making functional change and difference instead of just like laying on a table and expecting it to just magically happen. 

[00:03:41] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Okay. So when you say passive and actively doing things are passive and active therapies, what do you mean by that? So I understand what it means, but for someone listening, what’s a passive type of therapy.

[00:03:53] Paulina Klevgaard: Definitely. So in how I see it, when folks come in and they want a massage, you know, they come in for 30, 45, [00:04:00] 60 minute. And while it may not be a great time for them all the time, especially when you’re working out things, injuries that are quite sore, they aren’t actively participating. So I’m the one doing the work.

[00:04:13] I am trying to give them exercises afterwards, but I can only spend time with them for an hour in my day. And then all the rest of the time, they’re not with me. I can’t make a lot of change going forward. But if we’re not assessing the patterns that they have outside of the massage room, what they do in their day-to-day life, how they’re sleeping, how they’re moving, we’re just going to keep going over and over and over and dealing with the same kind of thing.

[00:04:44] So once we get into mobility, I have the opportunity to be like, let’s see how you sit at your desk. Let’s see what actions you’re doing in the sport and how you keep moving. Like, why is your shoulder constantly bothering you? Like what’s what are the pieces here? So we can [00:05:00] actually like take what’s happening in their life, deconstruct it down to the basics and then actually be able to go forward with a treatment plan too.

[00:05:09] Either release, strengthened or get them just being more mindful about the positions or actions they’re in throughout their day. 

[00:05:18] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Yeah. That totally makes sense. They can only be with you so long. Any given day, I’m sure you’ve had clients or patients that have afterwards just mentioned to you, oh, just follow me around and just give me a massage all day.

[00:05:30] Right. And 

[00:05:32] Paulina Klevgaard: she could just move in with me. I like, I would love if I win the lottery, I’ll have a massage therapist every day and I’m like, Well, no,

[00:05:45] you didn’t have folks come in and they’d do their massage. It’s like, oh yeah, I’m going to go dig a bunch of holes to plant some trees right now. And you’re like, well, that was a waste of an hour, come in, over and over. And it’s like, oh, were you feeling bad after the last time? No, not really. Oh, well do you do those exercises?[00:06:00] 

[00:06:00] No, I didn’t have time. What am I doing? I don’t want to just like take people’s money and, you know, just show up for an hour. I want to like make change, but I want them to feel. 

[00:06:12] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Okay. So it sounds like you’re saying you want them to actually improve over time and then reach their pain-free goals or get them to do the things they want to do.

[00:06:21] Not just, oh, you know, it feels good. Come in next week. We’ll do this for the rest of your life because you know, it feels good and you’ll be happy because you’re getting paid and they’ll be happy because they feel good for an hour or two afterwards, but just right. Yes, that totally makes sense. So we need to make changes in.

[00:06:40] Their life. So what are some what are the different types of massage? So it sounds like you’re more into the therapeutic type of massage. I know you had mentioned there’s like a a lifespan, if you will typically on massage therapists, because it is can be a very physical job. Especially if you’re doing more [00:07:00] deep tissue therapeutic, what’s the difference between that or a sweetest massage or there’s Rolfing or there’s, you know, hot stone massage, for example, what are the kind of differences there and who should seek which type of treatment?

[00:07:14] Paulina Klevgaard: That’s a great question. And a little bit loaded question. So I Def. Prefer to practice the more therapeutic sports therapy. I do myofascial cupping as well, and that’s a modality that I can’t get enough of. I love a lot of my clients love. We can kind of use it as a multitasking treatment so I can put cups on their shoulder and then I can manually work their hips low back.

[00:07:39] So I’m getting twice as much done in the time that I’m there. And especially with the cupping, you know, it’s me digging my elbow into someone. It’s going to be uncomfortable and I can only hold that pressure for so long, but with the cups, they have that negative pressure and they pulled the tissue all apart.

[00:07:54] So the body stops fighting and eventually it gets like, oh, well this isn’t going anywhere. I guess I’ll just give [00:08:00] up. So that kind of helps promote that release and breaking up some of that tissue better. So you just miss out Swedish massage, relaxation. That’s more of like a feel good. It was spa treatment.

[00:08:15] I kind of find even some of my clients, once we kind of get them to a place where they’re feeling better, they’re like, yeah, I’m just going to go to a spa or whatever, just to get like a relaxing massage. Cause like I come here for therapy. I go there to just feel nice and have a nap on the table. So that you might not nap while you’re getting a therapeutic session because it’s not going to be always the nicest thing.

[00:08:38] If you’re wanting things to be fixed. But if you just want to hang out and just feel good, have someone to rub oil into your skin, that Swedish therapy’s nice. Good for circulation or folks that can’t handle a lot of pressure. If they have a lot of neurological issues where like sensitive touch on the skin is too much, that might be a better approach [00:09:00] as opposed to therapeutic hot stone kind of falls in that same category.

[00:09:05] I’ve done it in the past, but it’s not. A modality that I found to be super helpful. Again, it was more that like spa feel good kind of side. I want to fix people obviously. So the heat is nice. People often do like the cold stone too. I just find, I didn’t like really working into people with the rocks because I can’t feel what I’m doing through a rock and I don’t want to hurt.

[00:09:34] So usually we say them on rubbing people with it. It’s pretty relaxing stuff like Rolfing, even Prestons and stuff like that. A little bit more intense. Probably on the other side of therapeutic, even, just because you’re really participating in those ones, whether you like it or not. I know a lot of folks have scraping down or grasslands, even that like Tyrone’s things like that.

[00:09:59] And it’s not [00:10:00] something folks can often do for like a long hour session. It’s a little too much on the body. 

[00:10:07] Dr. Joseph Tanti: They need to be able to catch their breath digging in on them. Yeah. Okay. So you’re kind of more therapeutic not so much just relaxed, more you’re having some type of problem let’s get at it.

[00:10:21] Let’s fix it. And you, you kind of mentioned with cupping out, has that sustained. Pressure it’s constant versus if you’re more just doing deep tissue, it’s hard to hold that pressure for sustained period of time. That kind of leads into what you’re doing with the mobility work. Right. In terms of the you’re training with a functional range conditioning or functional range release, I believe.

[00:10:45] Yeah. Talk a little bit about what that is and how you utilize that for people. 

[00:10:49] Paulina Klevgaard: So I’m very fortunate with all of my interests kind of coming together. Like I had my massage therapy background when I got into aerials, it was a lot of strength building and [00:11:00] flexibility. And I not being a flexible person was fortunate enough to start teaching stretch classes, to help people and myself become a little bit more limber.

[00:11:13] And that kind of made me realize that there’s this gap between. What people think that they should do and what they need to do. So now with the mobility sessions, I have the background. So if something’s tight and we’re not getting ahead, I can be like, Hey, let’s try a massage. Let’s relax your shoulders.

[00:11:31] Before we try to do all this all these exercises, all these specific joint work, because if the muscles are tight, you’re gonna kind of run into a wall a little bit. So once that we can kind of assess those things with the mobility stuff, I can take it into exercises, strengthen giving them those tools as far as like stretching and releasing at home, whether you’re on a tennis ball or you’re doing [00:12:00] those scales and rails making it a bit more active stretch in the FRC system and even just working on that neurological connection, I find the biggest issue folks.

[00:12:11] Is, they don’t have that brain, body connection a lot of the time or they’re missing a big chunk of it. So if we can get their brain properly connecting to the right muscles, Change happens quite quickly and people feel a lot better, but when your brain only connects to a, B and C, instead of the rest of the alphabet, those get over you, they get tired, they get tight, they get weak.

[00:12:35] Sometimes you get those repetitive strain injuries. So we’re taking it from the small little thing where you only have a couple of muscles to use being like you have this full body. Let’s figure out how to ask. 

[00:12:49] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Okay. So it’s bringing awareness to a, if I’m understanding you, right. It’s bringing awareness of the person towards their whole body.

[00:12:58] Just kind of like if you’ve [00:13:00] ever, if you, if you’ve never run a marathon or you’ve never run before, or you’ve never swam before. Or you’ve never done physical work, you know, it’s something you’ve never done before. Then the next day you’re going to feel, you know, muscles. You never felt you had or thought you had, so a similar kind of concept, but less painful.

[00:13:18] I’ll say it 

[00:13:20] Paulina Klevgaard: not necessarily. It’s uncomfortable at times. Like I find, even for myself, I work pretty closely with my clients. Like, I’ll do the stretches with them so they can kind of see it. I can come over and help adjust, but even when I’m doing. Tales and rails for hips. It’s getting really deep into those like deep rotators that surround the joint.

[00:13:42] And even my hip joints are sore the next day because you’re causing those muscles to have to wake up and strengthen and work. When, you know, there’s a lot of bigger muscles around them that are happy to take the work, but that’s not always what you do. 

[00:13:57] Dr. Joseph Tanti: So just to back up a little bit you’ve [00:14:00] mentioned a few times what are pales in rails?

[00:14:01] I know those are acronyms, but what do they stand for? 

[00:14:05] Paulina Klevgaard: Pales are progressive angular, isometric loading and rails are regressive. So pales how I remember it is you’re pushing into that stretch and rails is you’re trying to lift your, for example, your leg out. So if I’m doing like leg pails for hamstring, I’m going to be safe, sitting in a straddle, and I’m going to focus on driving my one heel into the floor.

[00:14:33] Hold that depending on the intensity that I’m doing, say let’s go 40, 55% of my strength. Hold that. After a two minute stretch, open that system, pull that for 10, 20 seconds release. Keep that same posture and then have to fire my quads to lift that leg in that same. So you’re really working the end ranges of your joint, as opposed to just working on PRS, lifting [00:15:00] as much weight as you can.

[00:15:01] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Okay. So essentially taking a joint reusing example of a hip here, you’re going to take it to the end range. So let’s say a strata like it’s in front of you and the leg. Isn’t really moving too much, but it’s pushing down the one point and then you’re going to relax it. And then you’re going to try to, again, it’s at the end range and you’re going to try to lift it up.

[00:15:21] So you’re working the opposite muscles of the joint. So you’re trying to work all the muscles surrounding that joint at its end range. Yep. That’s 

[00:15:31] Paulina Klevgaard: perfect seeing process. And a lot of times, especially with the rails, people don’t have a lot of movement, whether it’s hip flection or internal rotation.

[00:15:43] Those are usually too, I find people struggle with. Sometimes all that you do in those positions is just shake violently and that’s still work. And people are like, oh, I’m not doing anything. I can’t get my foot off the ground. It’s nothing’s happening. And it’s like, yeah, it is. If you’re shaking, those muscles are [00:16:00] still working.

[00:16:00] You may not be able to lift your heel off the ground now, but this is where it starts. Your body’s not used to doing these movements. It’s not used to turning on these muscles. So let’s just fighting to figure out what’s happening and then strengthening it up. 

[00:16:14] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Yeah, absolutely. And it’s kind of waking up those muscles that like we talked about, you didn’t know you had, and I find that these kinds of exercises are fantastic for people that one have stiff hips.

[00:16:25] We’re talking about hips, for example. And especially for those people that have maybe degenerative changes or some arthritic changes in those hip joints and they may want to postpone a surgery. They’re worried about surgery down the road. Let’s say you’re 60 years old and you have a bad day. And, you know, the doctors say it’s bone on bone.

[00:16:50] It’s not actually, but it is kind of wearing out a little bit and you haven’t been using those muscles in a long time and you find that, you know, different exercises aggravate it, [00:17:00] this kind of exercise or these type of therapies, the very low intensity. So it’s not aggressive on the hip. And it definitely works those muscles surrounding that hip.

[00:17:08] And you’re trying to optimize its mobility and its function. And sometimes I’m sure you’ve had some patients that have had these kinds of hip problems and, you know, they’re able to go they one, they feel way better and they may not even be a candidate anymore for a hip operation or they can postpone it, like hopefully indefinitely, but definitely a longer duration.

[00:17:28] Paulina Klevgaard: Yeah. And the nice thing about FRC, it was such a great course to take, but they really focus from the joint outward. So it’s like, yeah, you might’ve told you how to bad joint, you know, you might have these issues, but let’s work at cleaning out that workspace in the joint. Let’s work at getting you your range of motion in the joint, and then you can work outward.

[00:17:46] So if you don’t have overhead flexion, because you’re going to humeral joint can not get there. Then how are you doing like overhead presses? No, you’re going to set yourself up for an injury because you’re [00:18:00] driving through a range of motion that you physically don’t have. So, so many people come in with a shoulder or a hip or a low back, and it’s like, everything hurts.

[00:18:09] I can’t do anything. I was being active. Why do I still hurt if I’m trying, but oftentimes there isn’t that connection. Sometimes the training or even that against self-awareness. You know, if you’re having to bend your elbows, when you’re going to overhead flection that’s because your shoulder can’t get into overhead flection.

[00:18:29] So maybe that’s not a safe position to be in, to start with. So we want to open up those joints, get that range of motion. So then they can safely and effectively do the things. 

[00:18:41] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Yeah, absolutely. If you’re not able to get in certain positions without weight if you add weight on there you’re just really loading a bad position and that’s a recipe for disaster and yeah.

[00:18:54] And I’m sure you get a lot of clients or patients that come in from some type of lifting [00:19:00] injury. And a lot of times it’s, you know, they’re causing it themselves because they’re, they don’t have that required motion. Yeah. And then they keep driving into that and they end up hurting themselves. 

[00:19:10] Paulina Klevgaard: What I find funny is, you know, you ask, you ask them like, oh, can you do the splits?

[00:19:14] Like, no, my hamstrings of bread, I would break in half. It’d be awful. So they refused to do the splits cause that’s a very visual. You know, marker of how much mobility or flexibility you have, but they have no problem dumping into their low back. If they’re lifting overhead or overhead flection, they don’t think of it as the same way, but it is the same thing.

[00:19:34] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Right? Absolutely. And a lot of it too, you were talking about how it’s more affecting the nervous system. So I find that a lot of people they’ll say, you know, is it the muscles? The muscles are tight or it’s the, you know, the joints jammed up, but it’s also the nervous system, our nervous systems kind of that master control system.

[00:19:51] If you aren’t able to access a certain range of motion, your body’s going to say, no, you can’t do that. And then yeah, it’s [00:20:00] trying to protect you. Exactly. So if you can’t get there oftentimes when you try to, it will be painful because it’s saying, I don’t want you to damage yourself. Totally. I go ahead.

[00:20:11] Nope. 

[00:20:13] Paulina Klevgaard: I got a lot deeper into that when it came into aerials, because especially with, it’s kind of like. I call it a less spicier version of Cirque de Solei. So insert, you see a lot of contortionists people doing these unthinkable backbends and splits and, but to head stuff like that. And while what I teach isn’t quite as aggressive, you still have a lot of folks coming in with no prior mobility, flexibility background, unless they’re naturally flexible or hypermobile, but even that poses some issues.

[00:20:46] So it’s, you have to train that nervous system. Like even when we start inverting in the hoops, you go upside down and your brain’s like, where the hell am I? Where am I going? What is happening? Where am I limbs? So I will physically often [00:21:00] spot people and I’ll tap their leg and the let go of a hand, but it’s like, you have to figure out how to move upside down.

[00:21:06] So you have to get your nervous system involved. Proprioception. Working together. And even when it comes to certain activities tricks that we do, sometimes we have to do a little bit of lat rolling to release things. Sometimes we do nerve glides because your nerves are going to be that stopping point.

[00:21:25] Cause they’re going to panic if you’re going too far. So we need to teach something that doesn’t stretch very well to stretch a little bit so that it will learn to trust that you’re not going to injure it and it doesn’t have to protect them. 

[00:21:38] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Right. Absolutely. So going into areas, what exactly is it? I know you kind of described it as Cirque de Solei a little bit less than that.

[00:21:49] That to me, I just think one Why would, why would I do this? I don’t want to fall on my head and hurt myself. [00:22:00] I’m sure you hear it all the time yet. And you know, you don’t want to get a concussion. Some people may feel like, oh, I’m too fragile to do this. What, what type of people do this type of sport essentially, or this activity?

[00:22:17] Paulina Klevgaard: The best answer is it’s for literally everyone. If you’re willing to. So aerials in general can mean a lot of things. So it can mean full. It can mean silks, trapeze aerial hoop, which is what I teach specifically straps something where you’re in the air. So my main focus here at Mortenson health.

[00:22:39] My company is Jade and we just do aerial hoops right now. So not only is it. A really cool activity to do. It’s a workout. So each class we start with a warmup, which is usually about 10 to 15 minutes, medium to high intensity. We do our conditioning. So it’s [00:23:00] various exercises. Not only to help strengthen things like shoulders, especially cause we’re doing a lot of hanging core things like that.

[00:23:08] But to also get your muscles, waking up, get your neurological system ready and preemptively prepare for things that are. And then the next part of class is basically learning skills and tricks. So that’s the fun aspect of it. Usually people struggle the most in the warmup. That’s probably the hardest part.

[00:23:28] But what I find really interesting is while hoop is challenging, it is very psychological. So I have, I’ve taught men. I’ve taught women all different age ranges. I’ve taught a few younger kids groups. And most recently the group I’m having a lot of fun with is folks in like the thirties, fifties plus range.

[00:23:51] Cause they definitely come in and all I hear all the time is, oh, I would die. I’d fall on my head, blah, blah, blah. And I’m like, it’s my [00:24:00] job to make sure you don’t die. So we’re not going to be doing splits and drops the first day. Let’s start from the basics and build from. So it’s been really fun to have these oftentimes middle-aged women coming in and they’re like, I don’t know if I can do this.

[00:24:16] And then just watching this like empowerment and confidence in themselves grow when they’re like, wow, I didn’t think I could do that. But now I can. And they’ll take a photo of their hoop Trek and show their family and friends. Their friends are like, wow, that’s so amazing. I could never do that. So not only is it like physically good and mentally, both challenging and rewarding, it’s a super confidence builder.

[00:24:36] It’s really empowering for a lot of. 

[00:24:39] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Yeah, that’s awesome. It’s I’m sure. I’m sure you got a lot of people that you know, they might have some type of injury first, for example shoulders, like be very challenging on the shoulders, obviously, too. So it might say, oh, you know, I can’t do that because I have a bad shoulder, but you and I both know, both know that if you have a bad shoulder, Well, it’s going to continue to [00:25:00] stay bad unless you strengthen it, unless you get some therapy done on it and strengthen it.

[00:25:05] And it sounds like this would be fantastic for that. Cause it’s definitely challenging on the shoulder. 

[00:25:11] Paulina Klevgaard: Yeah. Well, and movement’s the best medicine, right? So this, and when the big thing, and especially too with my massage therapy background, I don’t want to have to fix people from my class. I want to train them right.

[00:25:21] The first time. So we’re going to focus on proper shoulder positioning, strengthening in those positions. Being aware. My class sizes are usually pretty small, especially like my first level. So I have time to go around and help everyone. And I don’t focus on, you know, just upper body. It’s a great upper body strength builder, but I want the whole body to be strong.

[00:25:42] I want everything working together because in hoop it’s hard to find something. That you’re not using all your muscle groups at some point. So we want everything working together. The thing that most people struggle with is what I call your good side and your off side. So just like when you write you’re right, your most [00:26:00] dominant hand, super easy, you have no problem.

[00:26:03] But then your non-dominant hand, you’re like, is this even attached to the same body? And that’s, what’s so great about here. And even one thing I try to really hammer with my students is did your off site, your, your good side. Great. Now do your, off-site do it twice. So that you’re building strength evenly through the body.

[00:26:19] One side’s always going to connect easier. Tricks will often be easier on one side than the other to start with, but we got to work both to keep, even as to the body. We don’t want any crazy imbalances and we want to challenge our brain in those positions. That’s really, it’s an all encompassing kind of fitness, right?

[00:26:35] Dr. Joseph Tanti: That’s great. And I remember in one of my classes one of our profs would always say, you know, you gotta work both sides. Cause you know, it’s not like Mondays, everyone comes in with a one-sided problem. It’s, you know, we live in a three-dimensional world. Things happen all around us. We gotta be able to react to our environment, do things equally on or not, maybe not equally.

[00:26:57] Right. Well on both sides. [00:27:00] And if you can’t, then that’s where you can run into those injuries and get hurt and so forth. Absolutely. That’s great. Any type of anything else that you’d like to, to mention that we haven’t talked about? 

[00:27:14] Paulina Klevgaard: Okay.

[00:27:19] Not that I can think of off the top of my head. The biggest thing is especially here at mines and health, like we did for just trying to. A one-stop shop kind of wellness routine. Like even the chiropractors that I’m able to work with, like Dr. Sara, everyone’s really focused on not just like fixing you for now and sending you out.

[00:27:38] Like it’s very much a let’s get you working for the longterm let’s solve problem. Let’s work together to build you something that works to get your function back in your body. And it’s just like a wonderful and exciting environment to be in. Not every clinic or every massage therapy place is in that way.

[00:27:56] So it’s really fun to be with a lot of like progressive, very thoughtfully [00:28:00] minded people when it comes to alcohol. 

[00:28:02] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Right. So you’re not you guys, aren’t just trying to you know, someone comes in they’re sore. Okay. Now let’s bandaid you up or, you know, take the pain away. So you’re feeling fine tomorrow.

[00:28:13] You want to get them out of pain and then able to function as they go on through their life from a, you know, now let’s say they’re 20. So when they’re 30, 40, 50, when they’re 80 years old, they’re fully functional, able to live a healthy and wildlife without any limitations. So that sounds great.

[00:28:34] What would be the best way if anyone wants to reach out to you or have any questions or seek out your treatment or some of your classes? 

[00:28:43] Paulina Klevgaard: Absolutely. So the clinic Martinson health you can find us online. We have a whole web page. My Ariel’s is through there as well. My business page is Jade aerial fitness and mobility.

[00:28:59] I’m on [00:29:00] Facebook. I’m on Instagram. All my fun contact information is on there. I believe our website is Martinson and that has information on our Kairos, our awesome osteopath. We applaud these here now, which are super fun and super challenging. Maybe yoga studio, personal trainers. As much of a one-stop shop as we could possibly make it.

[00:29:19] We have a doula and a public health OT that comes in every so often. So we have a little bit of everything here and we get folks that come from Harrisburg, Edmonton, just because it’s such a unique place to be. 

[00:29:35] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Absolutely. What don’t you guys have in that clinic, 

[00:29:40] Paulina Klevgaard: we’re missing a physiotherapist right now and that’s about it.

[00:29:43] Dr. Joseph Tanti: Okay. So if any physiotherapists are listening, definitely reach out and they need your help there. That’s great. Well, thanks a lot for your time here Paulina., I hope you have a great rest of your day and we’ll stay in touch. 

[00:29:57] Paulina Klevgaard: Thank you so much.

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